Small time streamers vs what games to play

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  1. buzzbuddy71

    buzzbuddy71 Novice Member

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    Im new to the streaming world. Im going to be multi-streaming to hitbox and twitch but the question I have is, what games should I be playing? Should I stick to whats currently on the favorite list or should I just play what I want? I've been playing Tomb Raider for a bit and while people like the Twitter and Facebook posts, I barely get a person to watch (or so it looks like anyway).
     
  2. Jollyriffic

    Jollyriffic Administrator Staff Member

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    larger games like LoL, cs:go, you simply will not get the RANDOM viewers because you'll be so far down on the viewer list that nobody will find you. there are some rare cases where someone is scrolling down to the bottom, but honestly if you're not in or around the top 4 lines of the game, the vast majority of your random hits will be dropped by about 90%.
    however you want to play what you like to play. people aren't going to want to watch you play something you're not excited to play.
    It's a little more ideal to play a popular game that isn't super popular and Make that your main game.
    You'll have a much easier time gaining viewers playing 1 game, than a bunch of random games.
    There are some groups that sort of go hand in hand, such as COD and Minecraft. people that generally watch one will also watch the other.
     
  3. buzzbuddy71

    buzzbuddy71 Novice Member

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    Im guessing games that dont have an ending like CS:GO or COD/Minecraft are better to make those your main games. Tomb Raider is kind of old but its still a good game. It's just nobody watches it. I had better luck with Outlast to be honest.
     
  4. Jollyriffic

    Jollyriffic Administrator Staff Member

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    minecraft has a storyline with an ending, however you can sandbox and never complete it.
    multiplayer games tend to have better shelf life for streamers.
    the games where there is not any sort of multiplayer or very limited like darksouls/bloodborn, those types of games have really dedicated watchers. granted its not as much as something like cod/cs/minecraft but with a game like those if that's your thing, you'll likely have a solid viewer base with people talking more and way less troll bullshit
     
    • Livicole

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      You mentioned you've had good turn outs with Outlast... just thought I'd add to Jollyriffic's post that horror games are also good ways to bring in viewers usually. People love watching other people get scared... which is horrible for me cause I'm a chicken shit D; but I do a weekly horror game night and it's usually one of my best nights viewer wise! So maybe you could consider doing something like that if you enjoy it ^^
       
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      • Soulo"SmashTV"

        Soulo"SmashTV" Novice Member

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        Agreed horror games of any kind are always awesome. Dead Space, Outlast, the list just goes on. Playing games that are still favorites are great. If you get lucky a large partnered streamer will stream the same game as well and you can get the trickle down of those viewers. PErsonally I do it strategically if I see someone streaming an older game that I have an love I will stream that just to get the trickle down. I have an awesome group of people now that follow and hang out on the channel. Just do things strategically and you will be good to go.
         
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        • FlibbityFlam

          FlibbityFlam Novice Member

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          Never could get into the horror genre, I get too scared like a little girl. Good advice all around ladies and gentlemen! My advice would be to avoid the top 3 (ie LoL, CS:GO, DoTA) and to play games that you yourself find enjoyable. If your having fun your viewers are having fun and people will catch on to that. I don't enjoy just playing one game as a main game because I get bored easily so I break down my week with the different games I'm going to play. Like on Fridays I always play Fallout 4 (I call it Fallout Fridays, catchy I know), I do speedruns on Tuesday's, Halo 5 on the weekends, and Destiny Tuesday nights. This way I don't get easily bored by playing the same game day in and day out but my viewers still get to see the progression of all the games. I'm probably gonna through in Mario Maker as well, got good viewership with that game so that'd be one to play as well.
           
        • Eli_Ash

          Eli_Ash Novice Member

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          I have similar problems, I agree that a game you personally enjoy is your best bet. Another idea is to stick to a specific genre.
           
        • Counterclockwork

          Counterclockwork Novice Member

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          Popular games that are already stapled with popularity in the Twitch community can be both good and bad. For example with League of Legends it's an oddly good but random practice for large streamers to constantly host smaller streamers after games. That said it's on you to make yourself stand out of the crowd. Before reaching 1k followers I was hosted by SirhCez twice. If you're not familiar with him let's just throw out these two minor statistics:
          Some might think it's a stroke of luck, I say it's more due to the fact that I've polished my graphics to stand out so much from other streamers - which at the very least - I say is a requirement if you wish to grow while streaming under large games like this.

          Growing with smaller games can be a struggle as it comes down MOSTLY to how you advertise and how much you advertise yourself.

          In relevance to choosing what games to play AND actively grow with you need to find a good balance between amount of streamers and amount of viewers. Streaming community being smaller than the actual community means it's good but the large the difference proportionately, the better.

          BATTLERITE is one of the best examples of this that I think I can provide. Not even 25 streamers but 338 viewers. That could mean roughly 14 viewers per person, but contrarily of course like all games there's usually bigger streamers taking up the majority of that total. Which is 2 streamers in this case. While this seems bad, it's actually a VERY good thing for for the exact reasons I presented above about getting hosted by larger streamers like SircHez. In my case, there may be some luck involved as a League of Legends streamer. For Battlerite, it's likely only a matter of time so long as you stick to it.

          It's not always easy to find games like this but they are certainly out there and studying analytics or just looking at the numbers of games you enjoy may help you in deciding what's the best balance for your channels growth and your own enjoyment of what game you'll be playing. Twitch Lens is a fairly well known service for getting these specific numbers on game categories but Loots and Oofki are also good alternatives.

          Hope this helps.
           
        • Jollyriffic

          Jollyriffic Administrator Staff Member

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          There's also another factor I usually gloss over, but can have a real impact, the time you stream.
          When i was streaming COD Zombies, i usually would stream EST around 5pm-1am. I had a decent amount of viewers but not really gaining a large amount of traffic like i wanted. So i started looking at the analytics of it all, testing different times, and found that if i started streaming at about 5am est, my traffic skyrocketed. We're talking 50-75 viewers to 300-600. Granted it didn't just happen like "start streaming at 5am and presto 300 watchers". My original time slot seemed to be sort of stagnant and lacking any sort of impressive growth, once swapping times, i could see a nice swing up, statistically.

          This isn't something i'd recommend doing on your scheduled "off/break" days, provided you have any. See how many normal viewers from your previous schedule tune in, vs how many new viewers you pick up. weigh the pros and cons of it, then make the choice of what schedule to keep.
           
        • DragonKing4831

          DragonKing4831 Novice Member

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          Those hours do prove to bring in more viewers granted mine only went up to like 20-25 but its still more than i would normally have. but alot of people dont have the option to stream that early even on off days. plus when u go back to your regular streamed time most of those viewers wont show cause its not the time they are able to watch.
           

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